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		<title>By: How the Lit Fic Crowd Can Make Digital Publishing Legitimate &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>How the Lit Fic Crowd Can Make Digital Publishing Legitimate &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My belief that digital publishing could save literary fiction continues unbated.  After reading Liza Daly&#8217;s report of Book Camp Toronto, I am even more convinced: So by the end of the day at BookCamp I felt a little worn down by the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My belief that digital publishing could save literary fiction continues unbated.  After reading Liza Daly&#8217;s report of Book Camp Toronto, I am even more convinced: So by the end of the day at BookCamp I felt a little worn down by the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: #BCTO09 - Summary &#124; Random Musings</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>#BCTO09 - Summary &#124; Random Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BookCamp Toronto report [...]</description>
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		<title>By: #BCTO09 - Summary &#124; Random Musings</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>#BCTO09 - Summary &#124; Random Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BookCamp Toronto report [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steph troeth</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>steph troeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, I felt similarly that people were not so ready to embrace what technology could help to solve. Perhaps it&#039;s because we&#039;ve lived (and stumbled) through the early days of the web — for me I know it was particularly distressing to hear the same arguments again, 10 years late. Though as you put it, we ought to be able to learn from the last decade or so. 

What&#039;s more interesting is that books aren&#039;t a whole new thing; they have been with us for such a long time that we can derive a much better sense for what people /need/, we just have to figure out what they would like, or what they  would like when they see/feel/use but don&#039;t know it yet. The web was all new and unproven, and had remained unproven for a very long while; to this day, we still stumble forwards with what the web ought to be. 

For me as a technologist, there are few things more exciting to be at this meeting point where we are essentially evolving a very old medium. It means there are old &quot;habits&quot; we have to deal with, but that&#039;s only part of it. Gives me goosebumps, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, I felt similarly that people were not so ready to embrace what technology could help to solve. Perhaps it&#8217;s because we&#8217;ve lived (and stumbled) through the early days of the web — for me I know it was particularly distressing to hear the same arguments again, 10 years late. Though as you put it, we ought to be able to learn from the last decade or so. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s more interesting is that books aren&#8217;t a whole new thing; they have been with us for such a long time that we can derive a much better sense for what people /need/, we just have to figure out what they would like, or what they  would like when they see/feel/use but don&#8217;t know it yet. The web was all new and unproven, and had remained unproven for a very long while; to this day, we still stumble forwards with what the web ought to be. </p>
<p>For me as a technologist, there are few things more exciting to be at this meeting point where we are essentially evolving a very old medium. It means there are old &#8220;habits&#8221; we have to deal with, but that&#8217;s only part of it. Gives me goosebumps, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Stream of BookCamp Toronto #BCTO Related Links &#124; INDEX // mb</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Stream of BookCamp Toronto #BCTO Related Links &#124; INDEX // mb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liza Daly reports on her experience in Toronto at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Priyanka D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priyanka D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting point, while I came across your blog. Though I am not in ebook business, I can understand how often technology is not seen as a utility, its blamed for not doing somthing. Which is silly cause we made it to make our work easier...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting point, while I came across your blog. Though I am not in ebook business, I can understand how often technology is not seen as a utility, its blamed for not doing somthing. Which is silly cause we made it to make our work easier&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: The Daily Square - Pyramids Edition &#124; Booksquare</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>The Daily Square - Pyramids Edition &#124; Booksquare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BookCamp Toronto reportPost BookCamp Toronto, Liza Daly wonders why we aren&#8217;t hearing more questions about how to make the digital process better and less expensive. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Miette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, I heard both:  

-- [publishers] need to continue to keep things locked down and in the maw until we figure out how to inflate prices in other ways to keep margins high enough for everyone to get a cut

-and-

-- we should explore every imaginable way to disseminate content and reach readers, even if that means giving it away for free or looking-the-other-way and tacitly accepting a limited amount of the ILLEGAL and BAD.


Then I came home and took a swig of the mouthwash that is  Lewis Hyde&#039;s The Gift, to remind myself that we as creators don&#039;t have to keep literature confined to strict market terms.  

Love the Zen Garden-- big fat kudos!
-- Mtte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, I heard both:  </p>
<p>&#8211; [publishers] need to continue to keep things locked down and in the maw until we figure out how to inflate prices in other ways to keep margins high enough for everyone to get a cut</p>
<p>-and-</p>
<p>&#8211; we should explore every imaginable way to disseminate content and reach readers, even if that means giving it away for free or looking-the-other-way and tacitly accepting a limited amount of the ILLEGAL and BAD.</p>
<p>Then I came home and took a swig of the mouthwash that is  Lewis Hyde&#8217;s The Gift, to remind myself that we as creators don&#8217;t have to keep literature confined to strict market terms.  </p>
<p>Love the Zen Garden&#8211; big fat kudos!<br />
&#8211; Mtte.</p>
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		<title>By: liza</title>
		<link>http://blog.threepress.org/2009/06/08/bookcamp-toronto-report/comment-page-1/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard nothing but good things about Coach House in terms of their innovative approaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard nothing but good things about Coach House in terms of their innovative approaches.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there was Alana from Coach House Press who told me: &quot;We put our entire backlist of books on the web, in html, for free in 1997...and the rest of the Canadian publishing industry basically forced us to stop&quot; ...(!).

I think the techy sessions probably attracted more resistance, because skills/jobs are on the line due to changing tech. 

I was actually shocked at how positive the engagement was in the rest of the sessions.

And yes, I did not quite get this: &quot;we need clearer price signals on ebooks...&quot; but I did not have the chance to talk with the woman who said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there was Alana from Coach House Press who told me: &#8220;We put our entire backlist of books on the web, in html, for free in 1997&#8230;and the rest of the Canadian publishing industry basically forced us to stop&#8221; &#8230;(!).</p>
<p>I think the techy sessions probably attracted more resistance, because skills/jobs are on the line due to changing tech. </p>
<p>I was actually shocked at how positive the engagement was in the rest of the sessions.</p>
<p>And yes, I did not quite get this: &#8220;we need clearer price signals on ebooks&#8230;&#8221; but I did not have the chance to talk with the woman who said it.</p>
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