Comments on: Using HTML5 video in ePub http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/ Threepress creates software for publishers, educators and authors. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:55:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Liza Daly http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-2270 Liza Daly Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:34:48 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-2270 Matt: It <i>might</i> work in other ereaders that are based on browser technology that happens to support the <video> element, but I'm not aware of any that do. (It may just happen to work on some that are based on the WebKit browser engine.) Matt:

It might work in other ereaders that are based on browser technology that happens to support the <video> element, but I’m not aware of any that do. (It may just happen to work on some that are based on the WebKit browser engine.)

]]> By: Matthew http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-2268 Matthew Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:27:58 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-2268 Liza, That worked perfectly! Thanks so much. Is there a reason this will only work in Bookworm? Why can't other epub readers get past what you've done to the code? -Matt Liza,

That worked perfectly! Thanks so much.

Is there a reason this will only work in Bookworm? Why can’t other epub readers get past what you’ve done to the code?

-Matt

]]> By: Liza Daly http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-2263 Liza Daly Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:18:22 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-2263 Matthew: You might've downloaded the wrong thing off that page; it's not obvious which is the correct link to get the epub. Here's the correct link: http://threepress.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bookworm/library/test-data/data/video.epub I was able to download that file and then upload it to Bookworm successfully. (I'll update the post as well.) Matthew: You might’ve downloaded the wrong thing off that page; it’s not obvious which is the correct link to get the epub. Here’s the correct link: http://threepress.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bookworm/library/test-data/data/video.epub

I was able to download that file and then upload it to Bookworm successfully.

(I’ll update the post as well.)

]]> By: Matthew http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-2261 Matthew Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:13:43 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-2261 Hi Liza, I downloaded the video.epub file to test in Bookworm, but when I try to upload the file, I get an error message "The file you uploaded was not recognized as an ePub archive and could not be added to your library." Has anyone else been able to get it to work in Bookworm? Also, Seb, what is the name of your publishing society? I am very interested in embedding video into ebooks, and would love to hear about what you've been able to do. Thanks! -Matthew Hi Liza, I downloaded the video.epub file to test in Bookworm, but when I try to upload the file, I get an error message “The file you uploaded was not recognized as an ePub archive and could not be added to your library.” Has anyone else been able to get it to work in Bookworm?

Also, Seb, what is the name of your publishing society? I am very interested in embedding video into ebooks, and would love to hear about what you’ve been able to do.

Thanks!

-Matthew

]]> By: Frank Lowney http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-2204 Frank Lowney Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:42:07 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-2204 I've been looking at Apple's recently released content developer documentation for iTunes LP and iTunes Movie Extras, see: http://www.apple.com/itunes/lp-and-extras/ Like ePub, TuneKit is based upon open web technologies and, so, they are more similar than different from one another. Apple will also support the ePub format with an iPad application called iBooks. All of this caused me to wonder whether some kind of merger might be in the offing. Will TuneKit evolve beyond music and movies to encompass text or will ePub evolve beyond text to encompass interactive rich media? Apple now has a substantial history of involving itself in open standards organizations. Examples include WebKit and the tags Apple added to RSS. Speaking of RSS, the further question is whether there will be a non-commercial distribution model, perhaps adding .epub and .itlp to the list of podcastable file types. Thoughts? I’ve been looking at Apple’s recently released content developer documentation for iTunes LP and iTunes Movie Extras, see:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/lp-and-extras/

Like ePub, TuneKit is based upon open web technologies and, so, they are more similar than different from one another. Apple will also support the ePub format with an iPad application called iBooks.

All of this caused me to wonder whether some kind of merger might be in the offing. Will TuneKit evolve beyond music and movies to encompass text or will ePub evolve beyond text to encompass interactive rich media? Apple now has a substantial history of involving itself in open standards organizations. Examples include WebKit and the tags Apple added to RSS.

Speaking of RSS, the further question is whether there will be a non-commercial distribution model, perhaps adding .epub and .itlp to the list of podcastable file types.

Thoughts?

]]> By: A Million Thoughts NL » iPad enzo…. http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-2087 A Million Thoughts NL » iPad enzo…. Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:16:27 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-2087 [...] is op dit moment nog geen audio of video mogelijkheid in de ePub standaard, maar er zijn wel manieren om toch audio en video op te nemen in een ePub document. Er zijn tot nu toe alleen weinig devices die dit [...] [...] is op dit moment nog geen audio of video mogelijkheid in de ePub standaard, maar er zijn wel manieren om toch audio en video op te nemen in een ePub document. Er zijn tot nu toe alleen weinig devices die dit [...]

]]> By: Seb http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-1929 Seb Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:27:51 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-1929 Thanks Liza. In fact, we (my publishing society) plot to release ebooks with video like we did illustrated books before. We'd like to offer new kinds of perspectives, like in a Photoshop manual where illustrations are replaced by videos. So, i guess, for smartphone devices and netbook, epub is the solution. Seb Thanks Liza.

In fact, we (my publishing society) plot to release ebooks with video like we did illustrated books before. We’d like to offer new kinds of perspectives, like in a Photoshop manual where illustrations are replaced by videos.

So, i guess, for smartphone devices and netbook, epub is the solution.

Seb

]]> By: Liza Daly http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-1918 Liza Daly Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:47:21 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-1918 Seb, You can make epub files as big as you like, according to the spec. The practical limit on OPS file size in the Sony Reader doesn't apply here since it doesn't support video anyway. The main thing I'd be concerned with is ordinary download size. You can get a sense of the <a href="http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/16/how-big-is-the-average-epub-book/" rel="nofollow">range in sizes for epub books</a>, but I'd say that bigger than 5MB is pushing it, and 10MB will be too much for people to download on small devices. In theory you aren't supposed to embed resources from the web in an epub book (for example, hotlinking an image), but I think it makes sense to do so with video. If you were distributing an ebook that required a <em>lot</em> of video, I'd probably provide a huge version with everything bundled (for offline use) and another one that simply plays video hosted on YouTube or elsewhere. Seb,

You can make epub files as big as you like, according to the spec. The practical limit on OPS file size in the Sony Reader doesn’t apply here since it doesn’t support video anyway.

The main thing I’d be concerned with is ordinary download size. You can get a sense of the range in sizes for epub books, but I’d say that bigger than 5MB is pushing it, and 10MB will be too much for people to download on small devices.

In theory you aren’t supposed to embed resources from the web in an epub book (for example, hotlinking an image), but I think it makes sense to do so with video. If you were distributing an ebook that required a lot of video, I’d probably provide a huge version with everything bundled (for offline use) and another one that simply plays video hosted on YouTube or elsewhere.

]]> By: Seb http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-1889 Seb Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:28:29 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-1889 Great job Liza, but how about the size of the final epub. How many videos can you really embed in an epub without "breaking the limits" ? Imagine you want to insert some training videos into a graphist learning epub for student or pro, how many of videos can you reasonnably put in ? Thanks and congrates again for thoses developpments and communicate on it. Great job Liza, but how about the size of the final epub.
How many videos can you really embed in an epub without “breaking the limits” ? Imagine you want to insert some training videos into a graphist learning epub for student or pro, how many of videos can you reasonnably put in ?

Thanks and congrates again for thoses developpments and communicate on it.

]]> By: kira http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/15/using-html5-video-in-epub/comment-page-1/#comment-1227 kira Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:24:31 +0000 http://blog.threepress.org/?p=787#comment-1227 Actually, you can produce valid epub files using HTML 4.0 strict or transitional standards to get valid epubs too. Actually, you can produce valid epub files using HTML 4.0 strict or transitional standards to get valid epubs too.

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